The SSPX and the Electronic Grapevine

The SSPX and the Electronic Grapevine | Michael J. Miller | Catholic World Report

Document leaks fuel speculation about schism within the SSPX on the eve of major CDF meeting.

A letter by the General Superior of the Society of St. Pius X clarifying his response to Rome’s Doctrinal Preamble was submitted to the Vatican on April 17 and now awaits review on May 16 by the “Wednesday meeting” of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. The cardinals and bishops of the CDF will discuss Bishop Bernard Fellay’s response, and then deliver their individual opinions and reasons to the Holy Father. After studying the dossier, Benedict XVI will decide whether or not to reinstate the Society of St. Pius X canonically as an approved apostolic society of priests in the Catholic Church.  

Meanwhile, two private letters written in early April—one by the three other bishops of the SSPX and a response to it by Bishop Fellay and his two assistants—were anonymously posted on the Internet. This was the first major leak from within the Society since they began their theological discussions with the CDF in 2009. The contents of the letters should surprise no one who has heard or read public statements by the same writers:  Bishops Tissier de Mallerais, Galarreta and Williamson sternly warn that negotiations with Rome are a trap that will lead to assimilation and compromise with the principles of Tradition; Bishop Fellay urges his brother bishops to take a supernatural view of the Church and to consider the vast improvement in the Society’s situation vis-à-vis Rome in recent years. 

The manner in which these two documents were leaked is itself newsworthy. Almost immediately after the confidential letters were posted online, a friend notified the editor of the Traditional-Catholic blog Rorate Coeli, who downloaded a copy of each. He reported the leak on May 9, while refusing on principle to divulge the contents. On May 10 he described the formats of the respective documents: a PDF file created on April 19 of the actual letter signed and sent by Bishop Fellay on April 14, and a PDF file created on April 5 of an unsigned draft version of the earlier letter from the three bishops (eventually dated April 7), together with a .DOC file containing an English translation thereof. 

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Comments

[Joe]

Remarkable.

[Lionel Andrades]

Saturday, May 19, 2012
SSPX ENDORSES VATICAN COUNCIL II WHICH SAYS BUDDHISTS, MUSLIMS, JEWS NEED TO CONVERT FOR SALVATION: MEDIA MISINFORMED

Therefore, all ( Buddhists, Jews, Muslisms) must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him (for salvation) by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II (emphasis added)

Jewish Left media are welcoming Cardinal Kurt Koch’s ADL-approved talk at the Angelicum University in Rome on May 16. The cardinal’s talk was organised by a rabbi it seems to get the pro-Israel message out before a decision is taken on the SSPX (Society of St.Pius X).

At this ‘interfaith’ meeting of liberals no one commented on Vatican Council II text which indicates Jews need to convert (AG 7) and that Catholics are the new people of God (NA 4). They are the Chosen People now.

Vatican Council II (AG 7) says outside the Church there is no salvation and it agrees with the thrice defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus-but this will not be reported.

Imagine the genuine panic if Bishop Richard Williamson of the SSPX says he rejects Vatican Council II (Koch version), accepts Ad Gentes 7 and knows that Lumen Gentium 16 is not an explicit exception of AG 7 or the dogma outside the church no salvation. So many years of false propaganda and liberal ideology will collapse.

Catholics will know the truth.

What the media attribute to the SSPX and a ‘sect’ they will realize is the mainstream, official teaching of the Catholic Church.

So when the media reports that there are doctrinal differences between the SSPX and the Vatican it is amusing. The SSPX can cite text from Vatican Council II, if they want to. Koch cannot.

Nostra Aetate does not state anywhere that Jews do not have to convert for salvation or that Jews are saved in general in their religion or that Judaism is the ordinary means of salvation.

Cardinal Kurt Koch would find no text in the Council to support his claim at the Angelicum that Jews do not have to convert ‘in the present time’.

At the Angelicum Koch was dis regarding Vatican Council II (AG /), the Bible (John 3:5, Mk. 16:16 etc), the Nicene Creed (‘I believe in one baptism’), Dominus Iesus 20, the Catechism of the Catholic Church 845,846) etc.

When liberals meet in ‘interfaith’ one cannot expect anyone from the Angelicum to stand up and correct them. These lies are taught also by the professors there and the students have learnt to accept it.-Lionel Andrades

[Lionel Andrades]

SUNDAY, MAY 20, 2012
Koch’s SSPX must accept Jews do not have to convert to receive canonical status talk reported by Catholic News Service downplayed on Rorate Caeli

Comments from eucharistandmission pulled down (1) related to Koch’s Wednesday speech and CNS report.(2) Rorate Caeli now says ‘The complete text of the lecture, delivered in English, and of its Q&A follow-up session are not available at the moment’ disregards Catholic News Service report.

Even Rorate Caeli cannot carry reports on the Catholic Faith because of foreign pressure.Mentions '[Update, also for the record of events:] Jack Bemporad, a Reform Judaism rabbi, is the president of the "Interreligious Dialogue" Center at the Angelicum University and he also had some words to say regarding the decisions of Pope Benedict XVI (3)
-Lionel Andrades
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/05/kochs-sspx-must-accept-jews-do-not-have.html#links