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Thursday, September 02, 2010

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St. Augustine in a memorable description, “the wretched woman and Mercy.”

Having found the Latin text (PL 35, 1650 [PDF]), I see that it is as I suspected... a wonderful play on words: "Relicti sunt duo, misera et misericordia."

Another good post, Carl.

Sawyer

Excellent commentary and criticism, exposing the facile and erroneous thinking pitifully presented by the NCR author as an attempt to do theology.

David K. Monroe

Her essay is so frustratingly inconsistent and dishonest. "'Love the sinner, hate the sin' is wrong because if you don't love my sin you don't love me. Oh, and by the way, what you call 'my sin' isn't 'sin' anyway, so I'm totally OK."

So what she's really saying is not, "love the sinner", but rather, "stop calling things 'sin.' Unless it's something Rush Limbaugh says. You know, really BAD stuff like that.

Dan Deeny

I've always been troubled by Jesus' telling us we have to hate these people to be his disciples. Palestine can be hot, dry, and dusty. Maybe Jesus was having a bad day? That's my thought.
Look, Ms. Graham is probably a nice young lady who thinks we should all be nice to each other. Nothing wrong with that!

joe

Well done piece!

One observation on "Perhaps she fails to see that those she has lambasted for being hateful could just as well say, 'Hey, when you denounce my sin of 'hatred,' all I hear is, 'I don't love who you are, and I hate what you do. My hatred, although it doesn't define me, is an integral part of who I am."

I believe there does need to be a more coherent response to gays on the question of how closely sexuality is tied to identity and how that all plays out. A tendency to hate, or a tendency to gambling or drinking, is not as fundamental an aspect of 'identity' as sexual orientation.

Laura

I find it interesting that homosexuals define themselves by their behavior all the time ("it's an integral part of who I am"), but when we separate the behavior from the person and say that we love the person but we call the behavior sin, they accuse us of defining them by their behavior and hating them for it. I agree with Joe about the more coherent response on the close tie between sexuality and identity. Great post, Carl. Thank you for a great response to the characteristic sloppy thinking of all those in our culture, in the Church and out of it, who refuse to recognize what sin is.

Tantumblogo

Exceedingly well done. A scholarly deconstruction of a Childish exercise in selfishness and rejection of the Truth Christ has revealed through His Church.

Carl E. Olson

Thanks for the kind comments. Great catch, David. Re: homosexuality, I've added some links. My focus in the post was not on homosexuality; it just so happens that is the issue confounding Graham. My interest was in the reality of sin and how we often find ways of spinning it or even proclaiming it good and necessary.

Maybe Jesus was having a bad day? That's my thought.

Uh, no. Jesus' basic point is that our love and commitment for God should be such that our love for even family seems hateful in comparison. In other words, our love for God must not only be first, it needs to consume our entire life. This, in turn, won't destroy right relationships, but will fill them with even more love and holiness, purifying them of selfishness, sinfulness, and insecurities. His remark was make while he was on his journey up to Jerusalem (something Luke focuses on at length) to undergo the Passion, and it is made to disciples and followers who weren't fully committed, or didn't have the proper understanding of what it meant to follow him and to take up the cross. When Jesus told Peter, “Get behind me, Satan!”, it appears he is being unfair, even hateful. But his next words are essential: “You are a hindrance to me; for you are not on the side of God, but of men” (Matt. 16:23). Anything hindering us from loving God is to renounced; anyone who insists on taking the place of God in our lives must be rebuffed. Far from having a bad day, Jesus pointed out the way to have and pursue a good and holy life.

Dan Deeny

Carl,
Thank you for your response. Very interesting comment. So, how would you have handled the Cathars?

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