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Monday, August 09, 2010

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joe

Wow! A priest willing to speak forthrightly on an issue so many people want to sentimentalize away. He has my immense respect.

Brad Birzer

Thanks for posting this, Carl. It hits a little close to home, but it is quite thought provoking.

JKE

Our FSSP priest spoke on this very topic yesterday during his sermon. He prefaced his teaching by saying, "Better to hear painful truths than soothing lies."

Kevin C.

Is the 'Next' link at the bottom of the page supposed to lead to more of this article? It seems to end rather abruptly.

Sharon

I had a long discussion with a woman from Rachael’s Vineyard on this topic on the Catholic Answers Forum. She insisted that unbaptised infants are with the Lord and cited from Evangelium Vitae 99 to prove it. At the time of my original research there were two different English translations of EV 99 on the Vatican Website and all other languages had what I believe to be the incorrect translation as did EWTN and the USCCB website. The late Cardinal Lopez Trujillo also used what I believe is the incorrect translation.


http://www.vatican.va/edocs/ENG0141/__P10.HTM

A.The Father of mercies is ready to give you his forgiveness and his peace in the Sacrament of Reconciliation.
. You will come to understand that nothing is definitively lost and you will also be able to ask forgiveness from your child, who is now living in the Lord. With the friendly and expert help and advice of other people, and as a result of your own painful experience, you can be among the most eloquent defenders of everyone's right to life.


http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_25031995_evangelium-vitae_en.html



B ..The Father of mercies is ready to give you his forgiveness and his peace in the Sacrament of Reconciliation. To the same Father and his mercy you can with sure hope entrust your child. With the friendly and expert help and advice of other people, and as a result of your own painful experience, you can be among the most eloquent defenders of everyone's right to life.


As you can see the differences in the key sentence for the same document, both from the Vatican website, give very different meanings. One gives the impression that the aborted preborn is definitely in heaven and the other would agree with the CCC and the latest document published that we must hope and trust in the mercy of God. B agrees with the official Latin translation.


The assurance of an unbaptised child attaining the beatific vision could have another unintended consequence. A mother who was convinced that her unborn child would have a terrible life on earth might be tempted to send that child to heaven before birth knowing that all she had to do was to go to confession and have the sin forgiven but at least the child will be with God.

Christopher Milton

Since we baptise infants and allow the parents to speak of their will and desire to be baptised, would that not also apply to the child who dies before baptism?

My son is due to be baptised on Saturday. His mother and I greatly desire it, should he perish before Saturday, would our desire be enough for a baptism of desire?

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