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Saturday, June 26, 2010


Ed Peters

What you guys talking about? I can hardly wait for it to come to a dvd player near me. We roared, I mean ROARED, through the buffoonery of DVC, but this one, THIS is gonna be mind-blowingly stupid. Ice your soda, chill those brews, broil da burgers, and sizzle those ribs, we're gonna have a Pope Joan Party.

"The Devill, that Prowed spirit, cannot endure to be mocked." St. Thomas More.

Robert Miller

Let's say, for the sake of absurd discussion, that the story were true: What would it prove?

The Church, as we know, is unable to ordain a woman priest or bishop. The Pope must be a priest and bishop (even if thus ordained only on the day of coronation). So if someone defrauded the Papal electors into believing that he/she was eligible for ordination, he/she would no more be Pope than Hans Kung is.

This "legend" is incredibly perverse and silly business. At the time of the Reformation, it probably served the generally misogynist aims and actions of the anti-Marian, anti-Catholic, anti-women-Religious "Reformers". So don't be surprised if the Leadership Conference of Women Religious features a screening of the new flick at its next convention!


" Pope Joan was both a Knights Templar and Gnostic who was a direct descendant of Jesus and Mary Magdalene who also happened to pass along the sacred truths and secrets of ancient witchcraft, the pyramids of Egypt, and Tri-Lateral Commission—and who invented electricity, women's suffrage, and the Internet."

No mention of the Masons?


Flogging the Pope Joan horse just shows you how desperate the anti-Cats are.

Gail F

Maybe it will be as good as that other German howler, "The Last Templar"!


I heard she was killed by an albino assassin monk... :)


Actually, there is no requirement that the Pope first be a bishop, or a even a priest! It has never been done, and likely never will be, but technically a lay Catholic may in fact be elected to the Papacy.

As for the ordination of women to the priesthood or even the deaconate, the Church teaches that she does not have that authority, so that will never happen. That's fine with me.

Carl E. Olson

Actually, there is no requirement that the Pope first be a bishop, or a even a priest! It has never been done, and likely never will be, but technically a lay Catholic may in fact be elected to the Papacy.

That is true, as far as it goes, but if a layman were elected Pope, he would, according to the Code of Canon Law (pars. 330-2), have to be ordained a bishop——which means he would have to be an unmarried man of the proper age, etc.:

Can. 331 The bishop of the Roman Church, in whom continues the office given by the Lord uniquely to Peter, the first of the Apostles, and to be transmitted to his successors, is the head of the college of bishops, the Vicar of Christ, and the pastor of the universal Church on earth. By virtue of his office he possesses supreme, full, immediate, and universal ordinary power in the Church, which he is always able to exercise freely.

Can. 332 §1. The Roman Pontiff obtains full and supreme power in the Church by his acceptance of legitimate election together with episcopal consecration. Therefore, a person elected to the supreme pontificate who is marked with episcopal character obtains this power from the moment of acceptance. If the person elected lacks episcopal character, however, he is to be ordained a bishop immediately.

Since the Pontiff does possess office or power until he is a bishop, the basic point still stands: a woman or unqualified man cannot be made pope.


I'll alert our parish's "pastoral assistant", one of the last members of her religious order, who takes delight in "reminding" us that "there is a legend that St. Brigid was a priest and that gives us hope, eh, ladies?". The resurgence of Pope Joan will be such a thrill for her. A religion of legends...

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