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Thursday, January 07, 2010

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James Findlayson

Where does Brit Hume's divorce and remarriage sit within this for Catholics, or do we just disregard it because he mentions Jesus on TV? Should they be separated 'in my personal opinion', for the sake of expediency, or because he's not Catholic, he can do what he likes?

Isn't Brit Hume just living in a state of 'Christian'-approved adultery?

Francis Beckwith

"That is what made Brit's comments so creepy: the self-certainty that "my god is better than yours.""

Ironically, Mr. Farrell is suggesting that no god is better than any other, which means that Mr. Farrell apparently believes his opinion about gods is better than any other opinion about gods including the opinion that some gods may be better than others. And this puts Mr. Farrell in precisely the same position as Brit Hume: he thinks he's right and everyone else is wrong. But the difference between Mr. Farrell and Mr. Hume is that at least the latter understands what he believes and what that entails; Mr. Farrell has no clue, and this is why he mistakes his dogmatic stipulation for liberal tolerance. Passive aggressive self-certainty is still self-certainty, and far more "creepy" than a candid, up-front, confession of one's beliefs.

No Man

In general, the louses that attacked Mr. Hume are slanderers and liars, SOP for Obama-worshipping koolaid drinkers.

The noted theologian, Don Imus, on the radio the other day stated that Christianity is better for Tiger. B/C under his so-called religion, Tiger will be reincarnated as a cockroach. No lie! I heard on the radio. Where are the rats that went after Mr. Hume?

I'm an accountant. What say the theologians?

I agree with Hume we believe in the forgiveness of sins.

Matthew

James;
I'm just curious about what you are implying. Are you saying that no man who is a sinner can point out the way to Truth and repentance to a fellow sinner?? Perhaps Hume was speaking from his own experience of healing in the face of his own sin. I know nothing of Hume's private life. Just because I do not live the Truth does not mean that I cannot speak it.
Matthew

Francis Beckwith
Where does Brit Hume's divorce and remarriage sit within this for Catholics, or do we just disregard it because he mentions Jesus on TV? Should they be separated 'in my personal opinion', for the sake of expediency, or because he's not Catholic, he can do what he likes?

Isn't Brit Hume just living in a state of 'Christian'-approved adultery?

When an imperfect man points to the perfect man for the benefit of another imperfect man, why do you concentrate on the finger rather than on the man to which it points? For the record, in another a life, I would have given you the finger, since I am, sadly, not a perfect man.

Janny

Tiger Woods' infidelity has gone way past "private sin" when it impacts as much as it has, and as such, is a prime example of what addicts call "hitting bottom." This is NOT to say the man doesn't need conversion as well...but don't set "counseling for sex addiction" up alongside "yoga" or any of that other nonsense as equivalently ineffective. The first thing I thought of when I heard the Woods story is, "Get that guy to an SA 12-Step Group." The Higher Power can then take over when he's willing to surrender...ergo, a conversion experience.

As for the notion that simply because a man is divorced and remarried, he has no right to express Christian principles/beliefs in public? Are we supposed to dignify that with an answer?

JB

Carl E. Olson

but don't set "counseling for sex addiction" up alongside "yoga" or any of that other nonsense as equivalently ineffective.

My point wasn't that all of these are equal in importance or effectiveness, but that few people would think any of these would be considered controversial, whereas suggesting conversion to Christianity is considered controversial, even intolerant.

Barbara

Living in the Bible Belt I've come to treasure my separated brethren for many things, not the least has been their confused reaction to Hume's comment. Here they wonder why no one said what Hume did sooner and what kind of Kool-Aid are y'all drinking to have a problem with him.

Carl E. Olson

Barbara: Perhaps it escaped your attention that my post was in defense of Hume? Kool-Aid indeed...

DN

I believe Barbara's comment is geographical in nature. "Y'all" meaning "those not in the Bible belt" which by implication includes the more urban/coastal news networks and the mindset they represent. Which is to say, not you (Carl), but y'all (non-Bible thumpers from outside the Bible Belt).

Carl E. Olson

DN: Ah, I can see that possibility now. The "Y'all" must have thrown me a bit. ;-)

LJ

It does depend somewhat on where the advice is coming from in the political sense. This came from FoxNews which, in the minds of some of the far leftists including some Catholics, is a bastion of fascism or something equally inane.

However, when Bill Clinton was finally having to own up to his Oval Office extra-curricular activities with Monica, what did he do? He had his come-to-Jesus moment with the Reverend Jesse and that was completely acceptable on the left. Wasn't the Reverend Jesse his "spiritual advisor" or somthing like that? (Had that been Barack Obama he would likely have had the title "Spiritual Czar")

Brit Hume is just a guy on TV offering an opinion, not a president.

MarkF

Folks, you're missing the big point here. We're all called by Vatican II to do just what Brit Hume did. When the time is appropriate we should speak about Jesus and the Church, and what he has done for us. Brit's timing was great and his words were measured but backed by an implicit, but well heard message that he had sinned, repented and changed.

Better to wait for the right moment, don't be a bore. But don't be afraid to speak about Jesus.

It's up to us, not to the people like Brit Hume.

Brian

Allow me to ask questions. Did Hume misrepresent Buddhism? Did Hume present a "get ouf of jail free" card disguised as Christianity? Did Hume show presumption that religious conversion will automatically fix one's problems? Those were among the questions that the "perfectly coiffed, immaculately manicured talking heads" have raised. Shall we address them?

David

Suggesting Woods try yoga or read Eckhart Tolle are not the same as a call for conversion, as one need not change their religion to do either of these. Indeed, many Christians make use of Buddhist meditation techniques and other practices without converting. Hume didn't merely suggest that Woods "try Jesus"- he also stated that Buddhism did not offer any sort of redemption. In so doing, he effectively insulted the faith of millions all over the world. He also made himself look like an idiot. As Brad Warner, a Buddhist blogger puts it, "If the entirety of Buddhism had no way at all of dealing with such a common thing as marital infidelity it couldn't possibly have lasted 2500 years and picked up several hundred million adherents."

Ilíon

Beckwith: "... For the record, in another a life, I would have given you the finger, since I am, sadly, not a perfect man."

Have you never heard of giving someone "the feather" (a raised pinkie finger) ... because his impudence doesn't rate a full bird? ;)

Thomas Mellon

I think y'all need to take up golf.

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