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Thursday, October 15, 2009

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Mark Brumley

I'm amused about the recent coincidence of references to G.K. Chesterton, Dale Ahlquist, and Christian rocker Larry Norman in my life.

The other night (as you know, Carl, because I emailed you about it) I was looking online for something on Chesterton, which led me to a reference to an interview by Dale Ahlquist of his former brother-in-law Larry Norman about Chesterton.

I vaguely remembered talking to Dale about the interview a couple of years ago. Somehow the Gilbert! publication of the interview escaped me. So I searched for the interview online and found it. Then David Paul Deavel wrote his article on Chesterton's return at Books & Culture and to what did he refer? Dale's interview with Larry Norman about Chesterton, of course.

How funny.

The Norman interview is ... well, Normanesque. I think he gets Muggeridge wrong. Early in Muggeridge's conversion process he may have been as LN describes. But I think as his conversion deepened, his attachment to Catholic doctrine deepened.

C.S. Lewis also gets short-changed in the LN interview. Not everything of value in Lewis is present in Chesterton. What's more, Norman is somewhat dismissive of Lewis' writings--which leaves me wondering how well he understood them.

Still, as usual, LN's comments are well worth the read.

Nick Milne

Norman cryptically remarked that after reading Chesterton one doesn't even "need" Lewis anymore.

I agree with Mark. This is a gross exaggeration, and does ill service to both men. Indeed, to be frank, as much as I value Chesterton's Catholicity and luminous prose, as time has gone by I've found myself returning more and more often to CSL than to GKC. There's a furious seriousness to Jack's work that stands up somewhat better than the more playful elements in Chesterton's, I think, and while I own many books by and about both, it's Lewis (60 volumes) that takes precedent over Chesterton (about 25).

Perhaps I identify more with Lewis because he was an academic. As great as Chesterton was - and as instrumental as he was in bringing me into the Church in the first place - he could never have written An Experiment in Criticism or Studies in Words, much less the essential The Discarded Image or the unjustly ignored English Literature in the Sixteenth Century. There's too much in them that is precise, and sober, and quiet, rather than ranging, and intoxicating, and boisterous. Still, Chesterton easily has him beat in poetry, both in terms of quality and scope of output. Jack's Dymer is good, but it's no Ballad of the White Horse.

I guess it's the case that Chesterton brought me inside the walls, while Lewis helps shore them up.

Mark Brumley

Each writer has things he brings to the table that the other doesn't. It isn't helpful to pit them against each other.

Sometimes LN would say things that seemed intended to be provocative--to get people thinking or talking. This seems to be such a case. He can't really have read Lewis carefully and come away with the outlook he did.

Mark Brumley

Also, so as not entirely to sidestep Deavel's article, he has this very ironical line: "Here one might briefly note the role of Christian rock in the revival of Chesterton in America."

It is hilarious to think of that bastion of Christian Tradition, Chesterton, being helped to revival in America by Christian rock. No doubt, that business had GKC in beatific stitches.

Dan Deeny

Does anyone know where to find Bertrand Russell's and Jean Paul Sartre's writings on Muggeridge? Why do they hate him?

M. L. Hearing

Yes, what Nick Milne said. I started out with Lewis and then moved to Chesterton. And for a long time, I thought Chesterton the profounder of the two. But now I'm returning more and more to Lewis.

The advantage that Chesterton had (I think) is that somewhere in his early adulthood he just forgot about himself, but it seems to have taken Lewis quite a few years to learn to ignore himself.

But, in any case, I owe them both a great debt.

M. L. Hearing

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