Bookmark and Share
My Photo

FROM the EDITORS:

  • IMPORTANT INFORMATION:
    Opinions expressed on the Insight Scoop weblog are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the positions of Ignatius Press. Links on this weblog to articles do not necessarily imply agreement by the author or by Ignatius Press with the contents of the articles. Links are provided to foster discussion of important issues. Readers should make their own evaluations of the contents of such articles.

NEW & UPCOMING, available from IGNATIUS PRESS







































































« For the first time in forty years... | Main | "Why has St. Luke always obsessed me?" »

Saturday, October 17, 2009

Comments

Robert Miller

God bless Archbishop Chaput.

He's right about everything except for one big thing.

The US state is not, nor has it ever been, something benign. It was founded by men who were complicit in regicide (Whigs). Its "propositional" patriotism is dialectically opposed to true, Christian patriotism. It is an "anti-Christendom".

JC Murray's thesis may have gotten a "Catholic" elected President, but it also elected Obama, debauched US Catholic political thought (Left and Right), and sank Ireland into a swamp of Americanist secularism.

Let's get real. The US Revolution was about Puritan anxiety in the face of British Crown concessions to the practice of the Catholic Faith in newly-acquired Quebec and about middle-colony fear that British Crown policy had turned against their program of extermination of the Indians in what are now Kentucky and Tennessee.

The US republic was founded on chattel slavery, extermination of native populations and regicide. As far as I can see, that's still the agenda today.

Got hope?

Fortunately, we have to the South the great Hispanic/Indian commonwealth that now is reclaiming its patrimony north of the US border. May its -- and Archbishop Chaput's -- tribe increase.

Arriba America catolica! Viva Cristo Rey!

SC Phelan

Mr. Miller,

I missed the part where Archbishop Chaput said or even implied that the state was ever benign. It was to be strictly limited (Bill of Rights was an admission that this had been an oversight of the original constitution), not benign, and certainly not the Hegelian monster that Obama and co. are trying to create.

And your oversimplification of what the revolution "was about" is not helpful, unless one shares your narrow and skewed narrative of the founding and the founders. The sins you rightly recognize (and there could be more considered here) in no way exclude the equally present and relevant virtues which also animated the founding.

And those "reclaiming ... patrimony" of the American Southwest have no more right to that land than those that they destroyed to take it in the first place, or for that matter, those who occupy it now and whose laws and infrastructure have brought prosperity that somehow has eluded our neighbors to the south.

Your bizarrely incomplete and uncharitable reading of current events following logically from the sins of the founders tells one much more about you than it does about them. Should that be the case?

Robert Miller

Dear SC Phelan:

You really have hit the issues "on the screws". Thank you.

Pope Alexander VI apportioned the New World to the Spaniards and the Portuguese. Accordingly, they set out to create a "new Christendom" in the New World. They did -- after first casting out (the work of Christ)the Americas' demons -- principally, human sacrifice . To be sure, being sinful humans, they committed many crimes in the process.

In contrast, the English pirated their New World settlements, set them up as counter-churches (against both Catholic and Anglican "establishments"), and enjoyed their merry little slaving, A-lettering and individualist autonomy until they needed the power of "Great" Britain to suppress the French encroachment on their lebensraum. Why do you suppose that the Seven Years War was called in these parts the "French and Indian War"? I'll tell you why: for all their faults, the French model of colonization was Catholic, not unlike that of the Spaniards and Portuguese. Catholics came to expel demons and create the conditions for a Christian Commonwealth. Puritans came as demons to enslave and exterminate non-European peoples. The American Revolution was raised to defend the "English way". And it succeeded -- here and globally.

What, then, does my reading of US history tell you, since you leave with that remark? I love my country, but not its constitutional regime. My love of my country is non- (maybe even anti-) "propositional". Kate Smith is my light in these matters: "God bless America ... stand beside her and guide her through the night with the Light from above".

God protect Louisville, my home.

Arriba America Catolica! Viva Cristo Rey!

The comments to this entry are closed.

Ignatius Insight

Twitter


Ignatius Press


Catholic World Report


WORTHY OF ATTENTION:




















Blogs & Sites We Like

June 2018

Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
          1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
Blog powered by Typepad