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Tuesday, October 27, 2009

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Evan

"Interestingly enough", I click on the link to the article and the first thing that I get is a pop-up ad for Michelle Malkin, of all people.

"Hmmmmm" indeed!

In any case, I don't understand the fuss. Rev. Guess has made a more specific statement about which figures are of particular concern w.r.t. hate speech. Archbishop Chaput has distanced the USCCB from naming any particular names. The concerns of a Spectatpr reader have apparently been answered. Must we make this into a UCC scandal? Is there good reason to say that Rev. Guess acted in bad faith, or would it be more charitable to assume that this was just a misunderstanding (which, I take it, occurs often enough when such broad coalitions are formed)?

Carl E. Olson

Evan: Ah, yes, the nasty, mean Michelle Malkin. "Of all people." Meaning...what? Careful, I'd hate to see you engage in hate speech.

When I mistakenly switched the order of "Evangelicals" and "Catholics" in my post about the recent ECT document on Mary, you immediately assumed I did it to somehow disparage Evangelicals (how, I'm not sure), and accused me of being immature, apparently not stopping to consider that changing the order can hardly be construed by any rational creature as a slight, or that it might have been an error (which it was). Yet here you are downplaying as a likely "misunderstanding" the use of the USCCB's name in a politically loaded situation by a group with an obvious axe to grind against politically conservative talk show hosts. Now, if the group comes forward and admits it was an error, I'll be happy to post that information. Until then...

Evan

I'm saying nothing about Michelle Malkin except that I take her to be a likely member of the set of people that Rev. Guess has in mind when he names a few specifically. What's interesting is the company that all of the parties in question keep. The UCC and Rev. Guess obviously have their partisan affiliations. I'm just saying that in writing against such partisan activism, the Spectator makes rather clear its own affiliations through the ads that it broadcasts. That's neither good nor bad- it's just to say that everyone who is speaking for or against an investigation of particular conservative commentators seems to have a stake in the disagreement. And I take that to be interesting. I take the Malkin ad to be annoying, but only in the sense that I find any pop-up ad annoying. I don't know anything about Malkin outside of her reputation, so I can't say anything about whether she is nasty or mean, on- or off-air.

I did indeed accuse you of being immature, and if it's any consolation I did so because I took you to be too clever not to have simply made an honest mistake. I hereby apologize for my own error and set you in the good company of the UCC, which I will continue to read as in error- not with the intentions of "downplaying" anything, but with the intention of reading charitably, as I said before.

Mark Brumley

because I took you to be too clever not to have simply made an honest mistake.

Do you mean this seriously, Evan? I can't tell. Surely you don't think cleverness precludes error?


Evan

First, a correction: of course I meant to write, "too clever to have simply made a mistake" rather than, "too clever not to have simply made a mistake."

Second, of course I don't think cleverness precludes error, nor will you find me telling Carl that he's too clever ever to have made a mistake. But surely in certain instances we can find "it was a mistake" less likely than "it was deliberate" on the basis of a person's cleverness. Otherwise I don't know what cleverness would mean in these sorts of situations.

Mark Brumley

Surely in certain instances. But not all. And not here and now.

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