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Tuesday, July 07, 2009



...the great Pope Paul VI...?

So does that make it official then? Are we to refer to him as Pope Paul the Great now?

bill bannon

It suffers from depending on generalities that are not followed by concrete examples within our time. Praising labor unions as a good... equals a generality. Encyclicals like to do that. By now however we in real life in the US know that unions can also be infiltratd by organized crime and otherwise can ask so many benefits that they along with other factors can collapse an auto industry. All of which concreteness....doesn't fit into the papal generality style and is absent. Heck when he finally mentioned "outsourcing" and briefly defined it, I was glad to encounter a concrete reality that had not occurred in other encyclicals.
And his calling Paul VI "great" was odd. Does this mean that this term is going to appear all over the Catholic media so that we will be swimming in recent "great" Popes. If you use certain words too much, it starts to lose its meaning. But I doubt that I can stop one of these papal trends. I must simply get out of the way.

Jack G.

When will this be available on the Kindle?


I know that it is and has been fashionable to dump all over Paul VI, but it is ever-increasingly clear that he was, in fact, a great pope.

John Herreid

It suffers from depending on generalities...

Huh. I thought it was remarkably specific, considering that he is addressing the entire world, not just the economic problems that have arisen in the US.

Deacon Harold

Good point, John!

Also, the title "Great" has been ascribed to only three popes out of 265: Pope St. Leo I, Pope St. Gregory I, and Pope St. Nicholas I. However, it's important to note that the Church has never officially pronounced these Popes as "great"; rather, they have been identified as great both by popular acclamation at the time of their deaths and by history itself. Give this fact, I don't believe Pope Benedict was placing Paul VI in this category.

I believe (along with many others!) that Pope John Paul II is the fourth "Great" pope.

Paul Zummo

I also second John's comments. If anything, this Encyclical deal with far more specifics than I would have anticipated. Sure we can quibble with little bits and pieces of what the Pope wrote, but I think to do so is to miss the larger points that the Pope was trying to lay out.

Mark Brumley

The e-book edition of the encyclical is now available for download here:

This is in a format that Kindle can read.

The book will be available from Amazon for Kindle in a couple of days. But why wait? You can download it today!

Jeff Grace

What I wanna know is... will From Aristotle to Darwin & Back Again: A Journey in Final Causality, Species and Evolution be available from Amazon Kindle? :)

Mark Brumley


Jesuit John

Ignatius Press is the best in Catholic book publishing. But, I'd like to know why the audio version of a single encyclical is over $14. Consider that the text version is available on the web for free and that it costs nothing to make electronic copies of the audio version. Most book-length audio files on i-tunes are under $10! What gives?

Mark Brumley

The text may be available for free on the internet but publishers must pay a royalty for its use. And while it may cost nothing to replicate the many electronic files in which the audio version of the book is recorded, it certainly costs something to record and edit it in the first place. And of course it costs money to be able to download it on a website.

I don't know why most book-length audio files on itunes are undert $10 or even whether that is so. But it is certainly not the case that most audio books sold for download are under $10.

If we can bring the cost down on the audio we will do so. Right now, we are in the initial stages of downloadable audio books and we have to proceed with care in our pricing.


I am a devout Catholic and devout Capitalist. I find this literature disturbing and completely reject it. Giving of my own free will is called charity. Being forced to give is extortion. Poor nations are poor not because rich nations are hoarding resources. Poor nations are poor because the governments are incredibly corrupt, and take the lions share of an individuals income. Unquestioned and un-scrutinized charity leads to abuse. Until poor nations embrace capitalism and economic freedom for its citizens, they will remain poor. Capitalism is the best way to guarantee economic prosperity. All other roads lead poverty and chaos. Growing up in Nazi Germany, the pope should know this. I refuse to feel guilty for working hard and reaping the fruits of my labor. The pope should remember the Holy Church get most of its contributions from free-willed Catholics living in rich capitalist nations.

Jonathan Aquino

I took American Papist’s Word document and created a printable booklet version:

Jesuit John

I noticed the price went down! w00h00!

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