That from Christopher West, who is described as a "sex sermonist" in a profile from ABC News:
"I love Hugh Hefner," said West. "I really do. Why? Because I think I understand his ache. I think I understand his longing because I feel it myself. There is this yearning, this ache, this longing we all have for love, for union, for intimacy."
West said John Paul II took the sexual revolution an extra step, outlining what he called the "Theology of the Body." The pope emphasized how God made Adam and Eve naked and without shame, in his own image. And told them to be fruitful and multiply.
In other words, according to the pope, from the very beginning, sexual love has been at the heart of God's plan for us.
Read the entire piece. (Speaking of the Song of Songs, here is a great commentary.)
UPDATE: I should have included this info, sent by the Maximus Group, in my original post:
Christopher West, senior fellow of the Theology of the Body Institute,
was interviewed last week for an in-depth feature segment on ABC’s
Nightline. The interview was filmed on location in North Carolina
during one of his conferences and also in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, near
the headquarters of the Theology of the Body Institute.
We were informed today that the piece will air either tonight (May 7) or tomorrow night (May 8). ABC Nightline airs at 11:35 EST. Check your local listing for more information.
Nightline has an average nightly viewing audience of four million.
Please pray for those who will be exposed to the message through this
medium.
Over eight hours of taped interviews were edited down to seven minutes.
We ask for your prayers through the intercession of John Paul II that
the message of The Theology of the Body will be presented authentically.
UPDATE: Matt Pinto, president of Ascension Press, which produces and distributes most (all? I'm not sure) of Christopher West's books and other materials, just wrote the following in the comments section:
Everyone,
I was there for 97% of the interview. Although I was pleased with how it came out, I did cringe a few times--not at Christopher, but at the singular focus of the piece on sex (the verb). And, the context with which he referenced Hugh Hefner was incomplete.
That said, this is a forum the Church must play in--even at the risk of being distorted--because much truth will come out. Think of the parable of the talents
I work closely with Christopher and believe he and his work are greatly misunderstood by some in the Church. We're dealing with touchy issues (sex, gender identity, etc) I only ask that you give his material a FULL read rather than just hone in on some soundbites. Christopher is completely within the pale and echoes both JPII's teaching and that of many great commentators of the past.
I don't know about you, but that was not a good way to teach. It's not the right forum to talk like that, in fact it can harm people. Hugh Hefner led to the spiritual destruction of millions of men, he led the charge to the worst destruction.
Posted by: nick | Thursday, May 07, 2009 at 04:06 PM
"But when West looks at the Bible now, he sees the ultimate sex guide. The "Joy of Sex" as a path to salvation."
Reporters words only, I hope. For this is wrong when Mark Driscoll hypes it, and it is equally wrong even if it can be attributed to JPII. Not to mention embarrassing. "The Theology of the Body" seems hyped in the same manner as a rushed cause for John Paul the Great. Both seem like a lot of hype along with some meritorious substance. IYAM. No I'll run for cover, and try to forget the idea that Hugh Hefner is responsible for anything good about sex.
Posted by: Joe | Thursday, May 07, 2009 at 04:36 PM
I've been to more than one Christopher West seminar, and have a significant amount of written material regarding "The Theology of the Body." I am presenting the principals to my children in an age appropriate, lifelong conversation. The central concept I want them to apprehend is the connection between the manner in which God created us, and His will that we participate in the life of the Trinity through grace. Mr. West seems to be "dumbing down" that reality for a secular audience in the interview. I hope he elaborates on the Church's metaphysical understanding of our sexuality at least as much as the polite desriptions of Hefner's tragic outlook on sexuality.
Posted by: Daniel G. Fink | Thursday, May 07, 2009 at 06:56 PM
Respectfully, I would point out that this article is written by two reporters for ABC News. Consider the source - there will be a sensational presentation or distortion of the truth.
I have been privileged to hear Christopher West, and while he mentions Hefner, he certainly does not speak of him as a hero. Christopher West is one of the most interesting, engaging and orthodox speakers I have ever heard. I encourage everyone to read "Theology of the Body for Beginners" or to attend a talk by Mr. West.
I am convinced that the Theology of the Body is the "missing link," if you will, the framework on which all of our Catholic teaching regarding men and women, our differences, our complimentarity, our very reason for being created is meant to be built. It addresses and answers the most divisive issues of the current time, including women's ordination, gay marriage, contraception, mongamy,cohabitation.
If one can begin with the Theology of the Body, we see just how much God really loves us, how the things he asks of us are to make us happy and prevent harm to us, and how marriage and marital love are just a tiny taste of what God has waiting for us in heaven.
Posted by: Laura B | Thursday, May 07, 2009 at 07:01 PM
West increasingly strikes me as having a lot of great stuff, and also some wildly imprudent stuff, to say. A place to start might be: did any of the Fathers of the Church ever begin a homily by saying, "Now, those fertility cults with their temple prostitutes, they're really on to something..."
I get it that Catholicism is not anti-erotic. Quite the contrary. But does the modern-day despoiling of the Egyptians really include Playboy?
Posted by: Tom | Thursday, May 07, 2009 at 07:29 PM
Everyone,
I was there for 97% of the interview. Although I was pleased with how it came out, I did cringe a few times--not at Christopher, but at the singular focus of the piece on sex (the verb). And, the context with which he referenced Hugh Hefner was incomplete.
That said, this is a forum the Church must play in--even at the risk of being distorted--because much truth will come out. Think of the parable of the talents
I work closely with Christopher and believe he and his work are greatly misunderstood by some in the Church. We're dealing with touchy issues (sex, gender identity, etc) I only ask that you give his material a FULL read rather than just hone in on some soundbites. Christopher is completely within the pale and echoes both JPII's teaching and that of many great commentators of the past.
Posted by: Matthew Pinto | Friday, May 08, 2009 at 03:42 AM
Of course the 'sound bite' jockeys are going to get it wrong. If we attempt to engage the culture its going to be a little messy. A man like Christopher West and the folks at Theology of the Body are definately part of the solution. We should all pray for him and for those articulating the message of the truth about human love.
Generally people who are watching these little 5 minute sensationalized pieces are the kind of people who believe Dan Brown is a top notch historian. There is sooooo much work to do. If someone gets a little confused about Hugh Hefner being talked about in the same sentence with John Paul II, so be it.
Posted by: P. McCabe | Friday, May 08, 2009 at 07:08 AM
How is this different from what G.K. Chesterton said?? "A young man knocking on a brothel door is seeking God." GKC
Posted by: Matthew | Friday, May 08, 2009 at 08:41 AM
Touche', Matthew!
Posted by: Trubador | Friday, May 08, 2009 at 09:41 AM
M.P.: Isn't it precisely the problem that this very medium in which we have to compete doesn't stand still long enough to give West's views a full read and a fair shake? Of course they're going to take the Hefner quote out of context. That's sort of what I was getting at by using "imprudent." "Hugh Hefner is my muse" might make a great deal of sense understood in the entire context of West's work and with a fair examination of his sources, but is doomed to be misinterpreted in a 7-minute TV feature piece. Or, perhaps, even in a 45-minute talk.
Posted by: Tom | Friday, May 08, 2009 at 11:39 AM
""Hugh Hefner is my muse" might make a great deal of sense understood in the entire context of West's work"
Or simply a bad choice of illustrations. The Chesterton quote says the same thing without tripping over itself. I noticed one of West's book "Heaven's Song" features a shot of Heavenly Clouds and a four post bed emerging out of them. All still seems along the same lines as the Evangelical preacher who put a bed up on the platform when he preached about sex. Great shock value, as is pulling erotic tips out of the Song of Songs. But where decorum fits into everything, including an attention-getting maneuver with ABC, is an open question. Rhetorically and aesthetically it seems more out of a Latter-Day Saint or Osteen worldview. And that is a kneejerk intuitive reaction versuys a theological one. Even the phrase "Theology of the Body" sounds anthropomorphic to an oddly exaggerated sense. And while you have to second quess your reservations when a voiceferous conservative like Sungenis defends the JPII legacy against Randy Engel's critique, the 'Joy of Sex' vibe remains. Maybe sex is close to impossible to examine too clinically without failing. And with that rambling series of observations, I guess I will have to actually read some of the stuff!
Posted by: Joe | Friday, May 08, 2009 at 01:42 PM
I think that anyone familiar with the theology of the body and Christopher West's work was not too surprised that ABC "sensationalized" the ToB. Notice above that Mark wrote "sex (the verb)." There's the thing that people who don't know the ToB don't get: it's core issue is not intercourse; the core issue is the "unity in diversity" that is our creation as male and female (the real meaning of "sex").
His point about Hefner is that he recognized that prudish attitudes toward sexuality are not proper. In a talk on West's website (for free download) he takes it a step further, pointing out that Hefner noted the problem, but he didn't try to correct it. Rather, he just stuck in in our faces and made us look at it, as though that were a solution.
Finally, as to the cover of Heaven's Song: check out St. Peter's papal altar. It's a canopy bed. Sexual imagery is pervasive in the Church, from the dipping of the Paschal candle to our becoming "one flesh" with Christ in the Eucharist to the statue of a woman bearing her breasts (from Isa. 66) next to the papal altar. West does a good job in his work, however, of making sure that we see sexuality as a SIGN and not as the reality.
To reiterate: we shouldn't be surprised that the ABC piece sensationalized sex (the verb), if only because people today tend to think that's ALL there is. (Think here of Lewis in The Four Loves: we think of the body as trash, as divine, or as an ass--nothing special, but good for what it does. Today we tend to think "divine," while St. Francis recognized that the body is an ass.) Still, we can pray that some people saw that and thought to themselves, "Huh. Surely not...guess I'll take a look!"
Posted by: Ed | Monday, May 11, 2009 at 11:21 AM
I believe it has been imprudently "expanded" and especially commented upon in public forums where it can be easily misunderstood. The ABC article came off as a huge scandal, the actual interview was not as bad but still had some scandalous stuff in it. By "scandal" I mean that even if the saying is not actually heretical, it can easily mislead, in this case make this "theology" a verbal porn.
THAT SAID, West gave a follow up interview the next day saying how he really DID NOT say some of the scandalous things ABC put (eg that hugh hefner was a role model to West), especially where they read into his comments. The actual interview was about 2 hours, and ABC "condensed" it into 15 min, so there is serious loss of context and "interpreting" to do by the reporters.
http://www.catholicnewsagency.co...new.php?n=15928
So while I imprudently went on a rant on this issue when I only read the ABC transcript, in fairness West was not properly represented on all points, though I firmly maintain it was imprudent at the very least to say some of what he did say.
Posted by: Nick | Monday, May 11, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Janet Smith has some really great things to say about how to interpret this whole controversy. It is so great to see the common sense and charity she brings to this whole topic! http://www.headlinebistro.com/hb/en/news/janetsmithresponse.html
Posted by: Rachel | Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 10:16 AM