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Saturday, March 28, 2009

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Jackson

"If the language in my article about President Obama’s funding of abortions seemed harsh and offensive, so be it."

No apologies. Very refreshing.

Clare

Well, it seems to me that the observation that "the person is the principle" sums up the American left in a nutshell: despise the principle [or principles], despise the person [who is the living "symbol" of the despicable principle{s}]. The left's rabid hatred of, say, Pope Benedict or George Bush and its worshipful adoration of Obama testify to the principle=person theory.

"Insight"-ful post. Thanks!

Clare

joe

A bishop who knows how to bish!

Ad multos annos!

Clare Krishan

may I concur, with one proviso: too many of our Bishops have indulged lax teaching for too long, and I will let this snippet (ellipses = excisions) from a local rag
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/currents/20090329_Head_Strong__Giving_Obama_a_listen_at_Notre_Dame.html
illustrate my point (paradoxically the journalist was trying to make the opposite point).

"So what leads to unruly behavior among the assembled masses ... ? ... Lynn Jamieson, professor and former chair of the department of recreation and park administration at Indiana University ... told me the lack of supervision can foster a combative spirit ... (f)rom there, she said, the feeling goes viral.

"In most cases, this form of behavior occurs because there are no codes of conduct in place, [no] supervision to enforce safe and civil behavior, and a general decline in willingness to confront fans who act in this manner," she said. "It becomes emotional contagion ..."

... I was struck by something else she told me. This type of unruly behavior has escalated as more and more time has passed without any real effort to discourage it, and... across campuses these days" has gone unchecked as well."

We need our Bishops to begin making the 'real effort to discourage' the indifference, that 'emotional contagion' which is at root the real scandal of American Catholicism -- sins against charity -- a far greater "offense" in the eyes of our Lord than harsh speech!

Clare Krishan

so sorry on the emphasis, [too lazy to use preview] last 3 paras should have looked like this:
"In most cases, this form of behavior occurs because there are no codes of conduct in place, [no] supervision to enforce safe and civil behavior, and a general decline in willingness to confront fans who act in this manner," she said. "It becomes emotional contagion ..."

... I was struck by something else she told me. This type of unruly behavior has escalated as more and more time has passed without any real effort to discourage it, "and... across campuses these days" has gone unchecked as well."

We need our Bishops to begin making the 'real effort to discourage' the indifference, that 'emotional contagion' which is at root the real scandal of American Catholicism -- sins against charity -- a far greater "offense" in the eyes of our Lord than harsh speech!

Paul H

Way to go Bishop Tobin! I was very encouraged to read these columns.

Also, I'm adding the closing HTML tags for bold and italics. Hopefully that will fix the font for any additional comments.

Nick Milne

I'm going to try to do my part, here.

That should end the madness.

Robert Miller

Bishop Tobin deserves the US Bishop von Galen award.

At the risk of offending the squeamish, I think we see in Obama's first 100 days far more parallels to Hitler's first hundred than to FDR's. Like AH, BO is disarming critics in the business elite by his apparent "reasonableness" -- even to the point of allowing his government to protect some of their laughably inappropriate "compensation". (None of FDR's blue smoke attacks on economic royalists here). At the same time, BO is using his "charisma" relentlessly to break the backs of his Catholic and Evangelical critics by executing a nearly flawless divide-and-conquer strategy. All the while, BO pursues, equally relentlessly his anti-life strategy -- just as AH pursued his during his early, "reasonable" period.

Dan Deeny

Carl, Thank you for this information on Catholics and the abortion business. If I'm not mistaken, Catholics voted about 54% for the Obama-Biden ticket. Vice President Biden is a Catholic. Can we expect an imaginary interview with Vice President Biden? Such an interview would surely be as interesting as this one with President Obama.
President Obama, who is not a Catholic, has a consistent record in favor of a woman's right to choose. Secretary of State Clinton, who is not a Catholic, also has a consistent record in favor of a woman's right to choose. And we know this!
What about the Catholics?

M. L. Hearing

"[L]egitimate criticism of his actions, words, and principles are sometimes interpreted as attacks on his person precisely because for some ardent Obama supporters the person is the principle." That's true. And the reason for this, I think, is that these folks seem to be capable of using only the ad hominem in their "arguments"--and so they expect the same from their opponents.

M. L. Hearing

Clare Krishan

oops mea culpa missing "closeitalic" tag

Paul H

The bold is gone, but the italics seems to be stubborn. :-)

Let me try adding the closing tag one more time.

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