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Monday, July 07, 2008

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DEACON

I do believe the lay faithful do "minister" the corporal and spiritual works of mercy and do not "apostolate" them. They, of course do this as a part of their lay apostolate. The observation of "extraordinary ministers" is quite clear.

Rick

Thanks to Deacon Harold for posting these quotes from Church documents and for his comments. I only wish that the bishops had considered these when they chose to study Lay Ecclesial Ministry (http://www.usccb.org/laity/laymin/layecclesial.shtml), which included a grant from the Lilly Foundation. While perhaps setting out to go something good, documents such as these often just lead to confusion especially when some of the points of the LEM documents seem to be contradict some of the quotes Deacon Harold lists above. I realize that the documents must be interpreted in context, but when the LEM document clearly states that it prefers to use the term minister in a generic sense and then applies to lay chaplains and youth ministry etc., what results is just fuzzy theology that makes a parish more of a society instead of a communion of persons.

DEACON

I AM NOT SURE A LAY PERSON CAN HOLD THE TITLE "CHAPLAIN" DOES ANONE LOOK AT CANON LAW?

Deacon Harold

DEACON:

Can. 564 A chaplain is a priest to whom is entrusted in a stable manner the pastoral care, at least in part, of some community or particular group of the Christian faithful, which is to be exercised according to the norm of universal and particular law.

Can. 521 §1. To become a pastor validly, one must be in the sacred order of the presbyterate.

Can. 228 §1. Lay persons who are found suitable are qualified to be admitted by the sacred pastors to those ecclesiastical offices and functions which they are able to exercise according to the precepts of the law.

"Pastor" and "chaplain" are not among the ecclesiatical offices and functions that can be exercised by laity (or by deacons, for that matter).

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