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Tuesday, May 13, 2008

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Brian Schuettler

Bill Donahue of the Catholic League: The Hammer of God.
I wish he were Bishop Bill Donahue!

Catherine Harmon

Am I the only one who thinks it is odd that Donahue places school vouchers on the same moral plane as abortion and embryonic stem cell research? Should it really be in the top three issues for Catholic voters? I mean, I'm sure a similar point about the make-up of Obama's Catholic advisory board could be made with any number of much weightier moral issues (same-sex marriage comes immediately to mind). It seems to me that Donahue undercuts the seriousness of these issues by saying, "These people claim to be Catholic but support killing babies and using the pieces for scientific research. Oh, AND they're opposed to school vouchers."

John Hetman

"Am I the only one who thinks it is odd that Donahue places school vouchers on the same moral plane as abortion and embryonic stem cell research?"

No, I am sure that you're not the only one, Catherine. It puzzled me as well--like on a test when one has to chose which of the three objects just doesn't fit. Perhaps, Mr. Donahue was in a hurry when he wrote he wrote his piece.

What's interesting about the collection of these dissenters (aka, apostates) in this group is that they could very easily be the board of directors of AmChurch--if all of its membership has soon died first from old age.

Carl Olson

Cate: No, you aren't alone. You're correct: it does undermine the seriousness of his proper criticism. I really admire a lot of the work Donahue does, but I think he would be more effective in many cases if he stayed a bit more focused with his language and tactics.

Brian Schuettler

Well, he may not be perfect, and the comments here certainly are valid, but at least he stands tall for the Church.

crankycon

Yeah, the inclusion of vouchers in the big three can politely be called a brainfart. But, otherwise, Donahue is right on the money.

Cajun Nick Jagneaux

I agree that the inclusion of school vouchers was just a bit jarring when I first read it.

However, given the context - a group of Catholic dissenters who are supporting a Democrat for president - I think that the inclusion has merit.

The Democrat Party is beholden to the work of teachers' unions (as a field representative of the National Association of Educators, I know this first-hand - but that a whole 'nother story).

The politically active teachers' union members care MUCH more about the voucher issue than any other issue.

So, I think that the reason that Donohue included school vouchers on the list is precisely because it is one of the defining issues for Democrat activists.

Donohue is in a position not only to defend the faith, but to "talk politics" while defending the faith. In order to do so, he's got to bring up the very issues that itch these liberal supporters where they scratch.

Cajun Nick Jagneaux

Um ... that should have read "as a former field representative" of the NEA. That's a very siginificant word to leave out.

(And I thank God I was given the grace to leave that job.)

BillyHW

School vouchers? Someone send this guy an editor.

Carl Olson

but at least he stands tall for the Church.

Absolutely. And I am thankful that Donahue is out there on the front lines dealing with these issues. But there are times when his polemics can overshadow the truthfulness of his criticisms. Then again, when it comes to polemics, I doubt I should be calling the kettle black...

Peadar Ban

Yes, thank God for William Donohue.

I read the letter that the Apostates for Obama wrote in reply to his kind words to them. I stopped to ponder an answer to their question of him about what the Republicans have done to end abortion in all these years since 1973.

Where does one begin?

Well they've never prevented anyone from saying anything out loud against abortion. They don't speak at NARAL conventions. They haven't made public statements that no one would be nominated for an appointment to the judiciary who doesn't support the murder of children, oops, abortion.

Anything else.

Not only are these folks morally blind, they're breathtakingly stupid.

LJ

I was under the impression that the function of a Catholic Advisory Board would be to represent the Catholic position to Senator Obama. But it seems that this board's function is to represent Senator Obama to Catholics.

No wonder they assumed (in the first line or two of their response) that Donahue's critique was a partisan attack. And, of course, it was signed by a large number of elected partisans.

Carl Olson

I was under the impression that the function of a Catholic Advisory Board would be to represent the Catholic position to Senator Obama. But it seems that this board's function is to represent Senator Obama to Catholics.

Perfectly summarized and stated!

Nino

Here we go again with Donohue.he is the one who was in bed with Guiliani time and time again.a phony issue of a painting in a small museum..americas mayor pretended he was upset about the concept.and Donohue played it up big.no 'catholic' has insulted the RCC more then Guiliani and the so called catholic league has never hit this evil man...at least Obama and Hillary dont claim to be christian..McCain is the most evil for he waves the flag but is an internationalist...

Dan Deeny

Sen. Obama's vote to deny aid to a baby born alive during an abortion is interesting. Normal people think we should all help babies, don't they? Is Sen. Obama okay? Wouldn't you have to be crazy (in the medical sense of the term) not to want to help a baby?

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