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Tuesday, September 11, 2007

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Dan

I find the whole notion of evolutionary psychology preposterous, especially to the extent it purports to explain what we think and believe. I cannot believe that there is any credible evidence that religious belief is genetically determined or otherwise inherited.

And if religious belief is the product of evolution, aren't then belief in feminism, civil rights, Nazism, socialism, democracy, and communism -- to mention just a few belief systems -- also the product of evolution? How can evolution account for so many contradictory things?

Matt Robare

From my personal observation of history religious belief (except in a few cases like Aztec Mexico and the like) does not provoke violence and intolerance. Instead it is nearly always people exploiting the power of religion for violent purposes because unless the ravening wolves hide in sheep's clothing the people will be against them.

MenTaLguY

I'm not a fan of evolutionary psychology. But let's suppose its broad premises are true for a moment: if there is such strong evolutionary pressure in favor of religion, the question of what real conditions it is a response to (the existence of God?) cannot be honestly ignored.

There's also the issue already mentioned, that atheism would appear to be evolutionarily maladaptive, but we needn't even invoke the spectre of religious violence to show it: religious belief correlates strongly with large family size, whereas atheists tend to reproduce at rates far below replacement.

LJ

Exactly right MenTaLguY.

This process of evolution is something happening right before our eyes. The non-religious and the secular progressives are contracepting and aborting themselves into oblivion while Catholics (of the orthodox kind) and Muslims are still reproducing apace.

Right now I think the Muslims might have the edge world-wide, but I think that if more Catholics can be convinced that the goal is to populate heaven, we can keep up.

Stephen Sparrow

How can Evolution account for Atheism? Actually what Dawkins and Co cannot reconcile is the virtue of Hope (or the vice of Despair) with random Natural Selection. They're trying to tell us that the virtue of hope was "forced on humanity by random natural selection". The fact is that "natural selection is hostile to all that is not geared toward survival at its most basic, and so at the very least, random natural selection would have, at the moment of hatching, crushed the faculty that enables both hope and despair to be contemplated. That faculty is free will, and it is unique to human beings, and it is confirmed and celebrated by Judeo-Christianity". Free will enables us to be er free - free to believe whatever we like. To be an atheist one needs to be able to stop thinking. However we, should still be able to admire atheists for their deep faith, right?

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