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Sunday, September 17, 2006

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Ed Peters

Gee, I'm having trouble squaring this actual statement with the universal secular press headlines saying B16 is "deeply sorry" for his remarks. I see B16 saying, "I'm sorry you guys got so ticked off." that's not the same thing as saying, "I'm sorry I said what I said." Personally, I would leave the word "sorry" out of it, but...

I am reminded of an episode: "Eddie, don't call other people stupid! Now, say you're sorry to Johnny."

Eddie: "Ok. Johnny, I am sorry you're so stupid."

Fr. Stephanos, O.S.B.

I listened to the video of this. When the pope said "a Medieval text" some in the crowd began to cheer.

Mark Brumley

Greg Burke, on FOX News, said he thought B 16's comment would be better translated "saddened" rather than "sorry". "I am deeply saddened ..." The Vatican doesn't have the Italian text up yet and I don't have time to go through the Italian press to see if it's available. We'll see. In any case, your point stands.

This incident can be summarized: The pope says reason and religion must go together for each to be able to remain true to itself. Some Muslims object and throw a fit, thus proving the pope right.

Fr. Stephanos, O.S.B.

Here's the Italian text that I transcribed from the video, plus my translation.

http://monkallover.blogspot.com/2006/09/message-of-pope-1202-pm-on-sunday-17.html

Mark, the Italian "rammaricato" can mean saddened. However, Italian also uses it as an expresssion of "sorry". In English, "sorrow" (sadness) and "sorry" are cognates.

Ed Peters

Ah, the confusion goes on. I've never liked it when people say, "I'm sorry your friend died." What does that mean? Maybe better, I feel sorrow that your friend died. But sorry, and sorrow, are not identical. thx folks.

Mark Brumley

Sorry, Ed.

Fr. Stephanos, O.S.B.

Whatever the sorry/sorrowful/sad case may be ...
the pope said he is "rammaricato" only about the feelings of Muslims.

He did not say he was "rammaricato" for his words.
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Mark Brumley

Not sorry to hear that, Fr. Stephanos.

Salome

Western-Islamic dialogue is impossible not only while the West refuses to include faith within reason, but also while the Muslims refuse to include reason within faith. Of course, in Regensburg the Pope quite appropriately emphasised the former point. Let's hope some enlightened imam has the courage to make the latter point to his people.

Mark Brumley

Unless "moderate" Muslims emerge publically and begin to condemn at the top of their lungs the violence we have seen in response to Benedict XVI's remarks, there is simply no hope for a peaceful resolution.

The West may go down to defeat as a result of a variety of factors, including its obsession with PC vis-a-vis Islam. Or the West may wake up and begin to defend itself and demand that Islam play by the same rules the West has to play by or suffer the consequences.

Neither outcome is what most of us would prefer. We would prefer a moderate voice within Islam to begin to do something to affect change in the Muslim world. But right now there seems little prospect for that.

We can all hope and pray for it. We can all try to pursue "dialogue" and hope we can persuade some Muslims to be fair and just in their dealings with Christians in their domains--i.e., Benedict's apparent emphasis on reciprocity. Yet no one should be naive about the likelihood of success. It's looking more and more as if Belloc was right. Too bad.

Jackson

"The word 'dialogue' has come to mean, not an honorable pursuit of truth to be reached in judgments, but rather an endless altercation based on the proposition that there is no truth. It is politically incorrect to claim that there is. The powers of the democratic state come more and more to enforce the proposition that there can be no truth, especially about how we ought to live."

-James V. Schall, "Is Heresy Heretical?"

Plato's Stepchild

You know, with the breathless reaction on the part of MSM to get another scoop as they take down the grievances of the perpetually aggrieved, you would have thought Papa Benedito opened at a swanky British Nightclub and began wailing GK Chesterton's Lepanto from the rooftops.

Crikey.

Rhadagast

I believe it is the right time for the Pope to authorize the return of the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon, also known as the Knights Templar. That should put the fear of God back into the issue.

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