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Tuesday, April 25, 2006

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Jackson

It's sad and annoying to see those like Pagels, who claim to be "only interested in the truth," constantly twist the truth. grrrr....

Ed Peters

Don't ever, ever, come within the crosshairs of Mankowski.

Little Gidding

This reminds me of Irenaeus' comparing the Gnostics' misuse of their original sources to an incompetent or dishonest dabbler in mosaics:

"It is as if someone destroyed the figure of a man in the authentic portrait of a king, carefully created by a skillful artist out of precious stones, and rearranged the stones to make the image of a dog or fox, declaring that this badly composed image is that good image of the king made by the skillful artist. ... In the same way these people compile old wives' tales and then, transferring sayings and words and parables, want to accommodate the words of God to their fables." Heresies, Book 1.8.1 [Robert M. Grant, Irenaeus of Lyons (New York: Routledge, 1996), p. 66.]

Deacon John M. Bresnahan

Father Mankowski proves what many of us have known for years--that if you get a degree or degrees or teach in the right universities--like Harvard-- you can lie, plagiarize, fabricate, and distort all you want and the media will worship at your feet. But be associated with Podunk State College and be a proponent of Accurate and Absolute Truth--especially with regard to religion--- then the MSM can never find your phone number.

Cristina A. Montes

There is also the question of what, exactly, does Pagels have a PhD in. As I read in "Not InDaVincible" (forgot the link), her PhD may be in underwater basket weaving for all we know.

Ed Peters

CAM, good point. Just today, I was reading about Sr. Joan Chittister getting yet another honorary degree from yet another a Catholic college, and the article mentioned what her real doctorate is in. I was thinking theology, church history, religious studies. Nope: ready for this? Communication Arts.

Carl Olson

I just saw today in the new issue of THIS ROCK that I have a Masters in Pastoral Ministry. Wow! That was easy.

Mark Brumley

Good work on that degree, Carl. At least the obtaining of that one was not influenced by me.

Salome

Fr Mankowski is not alone in demolishing Pagels. I pray that he is not alone in being largely ignored in doing so. Some years ago I read a very enjoyable demolition of Pagels and of the whole feminist uptake of (misinterpreted) gnosticism by Susanne Heine, the Professor of Evangelical (= protestant) Theology at the University of Vienna. While I don't necessarily endorse everything that Frau Prof. Dr. Heine wrote, I think it sad that, on the whole, the world still prefers to take more notice of Pagels. Let us pray that Fr Mankowski's words will fall in fertile ground!
On another tack, if I may, I recently watched a television program (made in the UK) called Who Wrote the Bible? In it was reference to The Gospel of Mary (Magdalene), and to the all-male Ecumenical Councils that left it out of the canonical scriptures because it was written by, or from the point of view of, a woman. Nowhere was it said that the real reason for leaving it out (along with the Gospels of Peter, Thomas and Judas: all men, I note), was because it was a load of gnostic twaddle. Perhaps there is a recognition that the word 'gnostic' is sufficient to turn some of the faithful off.

Nancy

PhD = Piled Higher and Deeper

Plato's StepFoot

"Communication Arts."

Headline:

Sr Chissiter shares academic pedigree with PAC-10 Football stars:

"My name is Manfred Drake. I have a 22" neck and I am majoring in Communication Arts at UCLA."

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