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Monday, January 02, 2006

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V

Hi Carl,

I am just suggesting an article which is related to your recent posts, by Sam Harris. Here it is:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20060102/cm_huffpost/013153;_ylt=Ale0F3ZPufMbCZwkKdKJ.xD9wxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--

If that link doesn't work you can access it through the Yahoo! opinion page in the news section.

I haven't read his book yet, but his arguments as they are presented here, IMHO, are not that formidable. I guess the sad thing is that this is an ingrained cultural position and dogma to some.


V

V

Hi Carl,

I am just suggesting an article which is related to your recent posts, by Sam Harris. Here it is:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20060102/cm_huffpost/013153;_ylt=Ale0F3ZPufMbCZwkKdKJ.xD9wxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--

If that link doesn't work you can access it through the Yahoo! opinion page in the news section.

I haven't read his book yet, but his arguments as they are presented here, IMHO, are not that formidable. I guess the sad thing is that this is an ingrained cultural position and dogma to some.


V

PK

Thirty years ago I wrote a spoof fifth gospel in 1611 English concerning Jesus and the crucifixion. Simon & Schuster were going to publish it until the Moral Majority in the US put the boot in. The original plot is still with me but I am having to rewrite, re-setting the time to today. Is the Moral Majority still as powerful as they obviously were or perhpas it has infiltrated Opus Dei?

Sandra Miesel

Eric Rudolph is emphatically not a Christian but a nihilist! Timothy McVeigh was a lapsed Catholic angry about Waco. And "non-human animal" rights groups are already quite dangerous to property here and have killed abroad. The columnist is as ignorant as he is wrong.

Patrick Coulton

Dear PK,

Perhaps you can publish in your home country as there
is a mortal majority there.
This note is written in 2006 English.

JohnH

Obviously, atheism has proven to be very moral. See: Communist Russia, North Korea, and China. Models of morality there.

Nikko the Evil Atheist

My, my, my. So many flaws, Carl. Such blatant, small-minded ignorance.

Q: "what will atheists who commit the same act do before nightfall?"
A: Well, it all depends on the individual. Some might try to escape punishment, though I should point out that there are many Christians would do the same. An atheist is as likely as a Christian to apologize, make amends, and accept punishment. Again, it all depends on the individual.

There is a big difference between analyzing Christianity and analyzing atheism. Christians are bound together by the same tradition. However, atheists are not a community. They have no defining beliefs besides the nonexistance of gods. Therefore, blaming all atheists for the failings of a few is an unfounded generalization.

Q:"But whose common sense? Marx's? Lenin's? Stalin's? Peter Singer's?"
A: No one in particular. The problem (well, one of them) with Christians is that they're too quick to defer to authority and assume that others do the same. Common sense does not come from Aquinas, Marx, the Bible or any other written dogma. It comes from what the human experience teaches us. Through life experience we learn moral and ethical conduct. The rules might not be written, but we still know them. This is why we need an adaptable morality, what you call "hazy generalizations." As we learn more and as humanity's situation changes, we will inevitably have to change our moral beliefs.

You, JohnH, and many other Christians make the mistake of believing that atheism=communism and blame atheists for the atrocities of people like Stalin. Let me explain that the terrible things Stalin did were done in the name of communism, not atheism.

I know this must be confusing to most of you. You're thinking "well aren't communism and atheism the same?" I'd like to take a moment to educate you all on a logical fallacy called affirming the consequence. It goes something like this:

If P, then Q
Q
Therefore, P

For example:
If Anna is human, then she is mortal
Anna is mortal
Therefore, she is human

WAIT! What if Anna's a dog or a cat? I hope you understand the mistake you're making:

If someone is a communist, then he is an atheist
He is an atheist
Therefore he is a communist. BS

I dare any of you to find an instance of an atheist committing atrocities against Christians in the name of atheism. Yet I know several Christians committing atrocities in the name of Christianity. I cite the Inquisition, Hitler (Face it. He was a Christian), Lashuan Harris, Abraham, and Andrea Yates as a few examples. Oh, and there's the story of Sodom and Gommorah, which teaches that heterosexual rape is better than consensual homosexuality. And the slaughter of the Amalakites, every man, woman, and child. And your beloved Jesus himself claimed that he brought not peace but a sword (Mt 10:34). Please acquaint yourselves with the "No true Scotsman" logical fallacy before responding.

Well, that was quite a bit of writing! I'm sure most of you, like most of the Christians I've come across, have read my post with a real fingers-in-the-ears attitude.

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