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Cristina A. Montes

Great job! I can't wait for this DVD to be sold here in the Philippines.

Steve Kellmeyer

Will Ignatius be producing a DVD that exposes the erros in their own Da Vinci Hoax?

Such as the erroneous idea that the DVC is Gnostic, an idea promulgated by Ignatius Press (among others), an idea which made the current uproar over the Gospel of Judas possible?

I'm just looking forward to an admission of error here, that's all.

Mark Brumley

If Steve Kellmeyer is looking for an admission of error, he is certainly free to offer one.

MLC

Cashing in again Carl? Only kidding. Can't wait to get a copy!

Steve Kellmeyer

Alright.

"On behalf of Mark Brumley and Ignatius Press, we apologize for having mislead people into thinking the Da Vinci Code was a Gnostic heresy, when it has nothing to do with Gnosticism at all.

Dan Brown's execrable research, which we were attempting to debunk, was in this case matched by our own failure to read and think about what he actually wrote. As a result, we spend a fair amount of time in both our book and our DVD tilting at straw men.

Again, Ignatius Press deeply apologizes for the errors in its material."

Just send that out in a press release, Mark.
Thanks.

Mark Brumley

DVH makes a sophisticated argument re: Gnosticism and the DVC. Brown draws on some elements of Gnosticism, frames some of his arguments based on how Gnosticism is used by others today, and ignores other aspects of Gnosticism that contradict his overall thesis. Apparently, Steve Kellmeyer is upset by this line of argument in the DVH. Apparently, he thinks it erroneous to claim Brown uses Gnosticism at all or that his ideas have been shaped by Gnosticism or popular ideas regarding it.

Mark Brumley

Steve: If this is how you're going to discuss things, then I have to ask you to stop posting at this blog. Whatever your personal issues are on this subject, they're not going to be displayed here. If you can't accept this, then you'll be prevented from blogging here.

Paul H

Assuming that the commenter above really is Steve Kellmeyer, and not an impostor, I'll just offer my own opinion and say that I think his words are unnecessarily harsh -- especially for someone who is on the same side as Carl in wanting to debunk the errors of The Da Vinci Code. I've read some of Mr. Kellmeyer's writings on the internet in the past, and have always had a high opinion of him based on those writings. So I was really surprised by the tone of the above comments (again assuming that they were not posted by an impostor). And just to be clear, I was not necessarily surprised by the fact that Mr. Kellmeyer and Mr. Olson might have some disagreements about exactly how to interpret and to debunk TDVC, but rather by the tone of the Mr. Kellmeyer's criticism.

Just my two cents; take it for what it's worth.

Mark Brumley

Thanks, Paul.

I wish Steve the best. But that doesn't mean I am going to allow him to post insults to Ignatius Press using Ignatius Press' hospitality. He can disagree with this or that point in the DVH. Fair enough. But if, for personal reasons, he can't manage to disagree without being disagreeable, then he will have to disagree somewhere else.

Paul H

By the way, regarding the above comments by Mr. Kellmeyer, I get the idea that there is more backstory here that I'm not aware of (and the same is probably true for other blog readers as well). But it's probably just as well that I remain unaware.

PhilVaz

Hey what's up with Steve K ? The more anti-Da Vinci Code books the merrier. A few more titles we need:

Da Vinci Lie, Da Vinci Trash, Da Vinci Garbage, wait there's more....please substitute the words "Da Vinci" or "Leonardo" in front of these words:

The Leonardo Aspersion, The Da Vinci Backbiting, The Leonardo Calumniation, Calumny, Complete Distortion of the Facts, Corker, Deceit, Deception, Defamation, Detraction, Dishonesty, Disinformation, Distortion, Evasion, Fable, Fabrication, Falsehood, Falseness, Falsification, Falsity, Fib, Fiction, Fish Story, Forgery, Fraudulence, Guile, Hyperbole, Inaccuracy, Invention, Libel, Mendacity, Misrepresentation, Misstatement, Myth, Obloquy, Perjury, Prevarication, Revilement, Reviling, Slander, Subterfuge, Tale, Tall Story, Terminological Inexactitude, Vilification, White Lie, Whopper

The Da Vinci Terminological Inexactitute is my favorite, and of course

Da Vinci Debris, Detritus, Dreck, Dregs, Dross, Filth, Junk, Muck, Offal, Refuse, Rubbish, Rubble, Scrap, Scrapings, Sewage, Slop, Sweepings, Swill, Trash, Waste

http://SoDumbTheConOfDan.com/

Not done, I'm working on the questions.....sorry we may be going overboard, but the movie will probably make a lot of money unfortunately.

Phil P

PhilVaz

On Gnosticism, Carl Olson writes in footnote 7, page 48 of DVH: "This is not to say that The Da Vinci Code embraces all gnostic beliefs, something that would be impossible since some forms of gnosticism contradict others."

So that explains that. Like everything else he gets wrong in DVC, Dan Brown has no idea what Gnosticism is and chapter 1 of DVH clarifies the many forms of Gnosticism. Anyway, I hate to see fellow Catholic apologists attack one another over minutia. Blessed Easter to all.

And I have forwarded http://www.DaVinciHoax.net to this blog!

Phil P

Mark Brumley

I think you're right, Phil.

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