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Tuesday, June 28, 2011

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Brad

"Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me, a sinner."

Maureen Ronau

love the sinner but not the sin.

Thomas More

NOw it starts. The public is not buying the homosexual agenda, so now it's a propaganda war. And the next step? Attacking the churches. This is only going to get worse.

Charles E Flynn

It appears that this memo did not reach some parts of Boston:

"No created being has ever changed God's mind about the rightness or wrongness of anything."

a priest of the Oblates of the Virgin Mary, on 8/8/88, spoken in Back Bay, Boston.

Dr. C

As much as we can try to finetune our own attitudes toward those in the world, and unfortunately in the church, that hold this terrible sin as acceptable, I'm afraid there is little we can do about their attitudes. They have erected a nearly-immovable inner wall against the unpopular truth here. Only God can open their eyes, so we must pray ande fast against the larger evil, and that we may remain solid in the truth and our desire for holiness. Exhausting sometimes,(at least to me!), but now is the time to be divinely stubborn! Thank you.

peter l

Dear oh dear,what is the world coming to?.The Gay Agenda wants to change the Church to become what exactly.?Another accept all sin's Church,is what they want the Church to become.These people need to be pitied,not hated.They are so far removed from God and his Word by unnatural lust's.

God have mercy on us all.

William E Bauer PhD

The word SECULAR means "of the age". It is a fact that each age (or perhaps each generation) is of the opinion that its kind of thought is the correct kind of thought. When I get bogged down in such secular thought I refer to Psalm 100 which reminds me that the Truth continues from generation to generation.

Fr. JP

Grow up...seriously...

Dave in San Juan Capo

Act up was able to force the American Psychiatrists and Psychologists to remove Homosexuality from a mental disorder status after hundreds of years of medical conviction that it was -- this being the only time they have done so for political rather than medical research reasons. So, why not get the Catholic Church to remove para. 2357 and 2358 from the Catechism of the Catholic Church for political reasons rather than the word of God in the scriptures.

joe

Wow. You really need to go to the link and *see* the Boston Globe front page layout. The story is front and center, with a wonderfully flattering staged portrait of a lesbian couple who look happier an anyone I encounter in a day. This is a propoganda war of the most extreme nature, and people need to think long and hard about effective ways to react.

Mo

I'm shocked that they are shocked. It's what has always been taught. It's wrong, period. doesn't matter if it's the year 2010 BC or 2010 AD, the Church is not a follow the newest trend kind of institution. If it were I probably wouldn't be a member.

Mariusz

The deepest root of all such nonsense is the absurd but nonetheless ubiquituous conviction that the Church ought to cater to the world and the egos of Her members. These people just can't comprehend the basic fact that the Church is in this world but not of this world, and that it is they who must submit and change. They are like morbidly obese people who come to a clinic and insist on still gorging themselves.

Ge0ffrey

When is the Boston Globe going to do a favorable piece on Courage, the Catholic support group for those struggling with same-sex attraction. Thank God for Courage!

Sean P. Dailey

Oh boy. Did we have to have the sentence, "There's a lot to swallow there" in an article about homosexual Catholics?

LJ

Thomas More, you are exactly right. This is where the persecution will begin. This propaganda war is only the culmination of many decades of the same agenda. Right now it is intimidation through speech, later there will be other methods to intimidate.

Sad to say, very little short of a general catastrophe or the actual collapse and end of the nation will reverse this. It is in those times when people are most likely to repent and return to God on his terms, not theirs.

Carl Mangine

"you cannot serve both God and mannon"

Charlie B

Carl, forgive me for repeating myself with my usual post about the Church and the sometimes called vocation of marriage. I worked in Adult, Marriage and Family ministry for over 25 years. I've come to the conclusion that the leaders of our church, particularly in America, are evidently satisfied with writing documents and columns defining and defending marriage instead of strengthening it in our own communion. I've been on a USCCB committee, I've studied most all the documents (pastoral or doctrinal) of the past 40 years, with the exception of the most recent one (www.usccb.org/loveandlife/), which I have skimmed. It notes that Popes John Paul and Benedict have emphasized that pastoral ministry in service of marriage and family life should be an urgent priority for the Church. But that was already voiced in Gaudium et spes in 1965!
From what I can tell, since marriage was made a "priority...in the evangelizing mission" of the USCCB in 2004, no concrete action has been taken or designed. The Love & Life document does urge ministry "that accompanies and assists people at all stages of their journey: from the early years when young people begin to learn about committed relationships to the later years of married life..." which makes the most sense to me. But that needs a scope, sequence, and method which engages, evangelizes and catechizes couples and parents, and becomes INSTITUTIONALIZED in parish structure. In short, what Chesterton might call a revolution. Otherwise, it will be random and haphazard like most marriage and family enrichment (with some exceptions), coming and going as pastors and bishops change.
The best antidote to the anti-marriage movement is to show that the Catholic vision really is what the human community needs. I think there's 3 ways to accomplish this: 1) continue to rebutt the propaganda; 2) take permanent action to strengthen marriage from engagement to the empty nest -and- educate couples and parents within that framework; 3) liturgical prayer, personal prayer and fasting, and meatless Fridays for the respect of life, family, and the common good. Who knows? we might even see a rebirth of celibate vocations!

elleblue

Who cares whether he likes or dislikes the Church's stand on homosexuality. He can always go somewhere else where they will always tell him he's right and so are all his actions.

If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything. I believe this sums up the world and its teachings.

Carlos Caso-Rosendi

Charlie B:

A few years ago I exposed a "Catholic" website run by a homosexual (and proud of it) who was publishing homosexual pornography interspersed with a flurry of Catholic articles copied form everywhere in the Internet. Nearly everyone in the Spanish Internet defended the right of that pervert to do that. The Church remained silent both in the country of residence (Portugal) and in the Spanish language web. I even caught a "traditional" priest encouraging the man and his lover for "his work." Since those days I am convinced that there are many of those in the Church and their work is both constant and insidious. They want to pervert our youth and they have succeeded with many.

We pay a lot of lip service to our ancient doctrines but few are living IN the faith of the Fathers these days. I like the quote by St. Bernard de Clairvaux at the opening of today's Insight Scoop: "Some seek knowledge for the sake of knowledge: that is curiosity. Others seek knowledge that they may themselves be known: that is vanity. But there are still others who seek knowledge in order to serve and edify others, and that is charity."

The indifference of the majority (both priests and laymen) got us to this point. It is a sort of "non serviam" light.

But things are changing: people are hungering for truth and if they don't get it from their pastors they are going to get it somewhere. That is the reason why good missions like Ignatius, EWTN, etc. are thriving. There is hunger in the land and those missions are faithful servants:

“Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Since seminary this passage of the "little Apocalypse" in Matthew 24 should be read daily to seminarians and priests. It is a terrifying prospect to be found a slacker by the living God.

Charles

The devil will tell you to leave the Church. The devil will tell you to change the Church. God will tell you that you are loved and can serve Him despite the urgings not to. Meeting the tests in our lives win the respect of God and make us saints.

Stacy

"Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the road broad that leads to destruction, and those who enter through it are many. How narrow the gate and constricted the road that leads to life. And those who find it are few." Matthew 7:13-14

James Christian

Good for these gay Catholics in Boston for staying in the church. And good thing that you Pharisees, for all your self-righteous posturing here, can do nothing about it! Praised be Jesus Christ!

thomas nawn

i am 73 from a family of 3 priests and sisters, i was xreated by almighty god to be gay, i have seen war looked death in the face, had a friend who was gay and died at 108 years old. think of all the toung people who hsave to face the venom from those who hate gay men and women, the fact is even father groschel stated beubg gay i how we are corb, thank you boston anddignity

Mark G.

I feel for homosexuals when it come to their fate but, a life of celibacy is the cross that homosexuals have to bear if they want to remain in God's grace... Likewise, it is a cross that non-married heterosexuals have to bear as well.

Christopher Lake

James Christian and Thomas Nawn, the Catechism of the Catholic Church does not teach hatred of homosexuals. Neither does it affirm active, practiced homosexuality, because Sacred Scripture clearly teaches that homosexual acts are objectively disordered. This teaching is not "hatred," nor is it "self-righteous posturing."

Was St. Paul "self-righteous," following his conversion to Christ? Not at all-- and he taught that homosexual acts were disordered. The Catholic Church teaches what Christ and the apostles believed on this subject, because the Church was founded by Christ and belongs to Him. The Church loves all people, including homosexuals. With that said, affirmation of sin is not love. However, the Church opposes hatred of, and discrimination against, homosexuals. From the Catechism:

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.


(Now, back to my part of this comment.) Does the above, from the Catechism sound like hatred? "They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided." Not exactly hatred, is it?

I am not denying that Catholics who struggle with homosexual inclinations fight a very great battle to be chaste. However, to give in to sin is not the answer. I am a 38-year-old single man with a physical disability who may never find a woman who will marry me. It is difficult and painful. However, out of love for me, and for all people, the Church will not teach that it is right for me (or anyone) to mortally damage my soul and body through sexual sin. Affirmation of sin is not love, and the Church loves you and me enough to tell us the truth.

Carlos Caso-Rosendi

Christopher: "I am not denying that Catholics who struggle with homosexual inclinations fight a very great battle to be chaste. However, to give in to sin is not the answer."

Your brief explanation is perfect. Now, what do we do with those homosexual Catholics who believe their condition is a virtue that has to be satisfied and hold the teaching of the Church to be wrong in their case?

What do we do with those who go even further and devise subtle ways to promote such error among the faithful?

What do we do with the faithful whose minds are full of television and take #2358 and #2359 to be an actual endorsement of homosexuality itself. This teaching may seem very clear to you and me but I have heard many invoke the "respect of all persons" as if it meant "respect of all deviance that persons may choose to hold and practice."

The difference between the Cross and a false cross is this: the Cross makes the bearer fruitful in the ways of the Spirit leading to life. A false cross merely magnifies our own sinful tendencies until we are spiritually dead: "turn those stones into bread and eat them." In the culture of death where we live in, everything has to surrender to the satisfaction of the flesh. Since that is an impossible goal more and more is demanded until the soul is exhausted in that vain pursuit.

Not a whole lot of our brothers and sisters understand it the way it should be understood.

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