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Raving Papist

I agree with you and also disagree with Fr Barron. Inception could be renamed "Purgatory" and Cobb's journey as a type of Purgatorio. I like to think that Flannery O'Connor would have approved of this movie. Personally, I think Nolan is the most interesting filmmaker at work today.

Apolonio

I agree with you here, Carl. I think what we are seeing from movies nowadays is the recognition to see that we cannot save ourselves. The same thing with No Country for Old Men. Nobody in that movie was good. They tried to but they really couldn't. And that's a good recognition, that we cannot save ourselves, that we see our limitations.

I think I disagree with you on the ending of the movie, though. (I won't tell the readers anything here). But it seems that Cobb could get into the subconscious, can get into the depth of things but he never took away his guilt.

Plus, I also think that a movie about a man desiring many things, looking deep within, or whatever and then in the end find God, would be a very boring movie. I think artists would agree. I think, for example, that A Beautiful Mind is one of the most Christian movies I have ever watched. But there was nothing there about John Nash finding God to be the ultimate reason. It does tell us that we can only really live through the fidelty of another. That's Christian.

Anil Wang

I don't know. It seems more like he's even given up caring what's real and just wants to enjoy a life he's comfortable with. Does he even know is wife is right and he's still in a dream? Does he even care that he might be in a coma, living off someone else's expense and living away from his real family, leaving them fatherless?

I think the way Star Trek Generations handled the Nexus was far better. Unlike the real world, it was possible for Picard to have a "real" family and for Kirk to have "real" adventures with his "real" wife in the Nexus (a secular eternal paradise), but both gave it up because "real" reality is not enough, even if it doesn't hurt anyone and even if escaping this "reality" means a loss of "real" relationships and it means ultimate death (people in the Nexus never die).

Fr. Josh Miller

Anil: That's the struggle. He wants what is real, what is true; that's why he comes (with at least the intent) to pull his patron back into the real world.

I agree with your analysis, Carl. What was so interesting to me about the movie was the exploration of consciousness. I kept thing George Berkeley the whole time.

fidens

Actually, Cobb is still in limbo - he has just 'let go' of his guilt over his wife's death and is thus able to imagine a happy alternative reality, including his children's faces.

The top we see at the end is still spinning.

Stephen Golay

Have not seen the movie. Never heard of it until I read of it here. Rarely go to the theater. So far, nothing said here perks my interest.

Is this reality - the not being interested? The not going to see it? The the satisfaction of seeing my wife's face this morning, and those of my children, is sufficient for the day thereof.

Do I need to see a movie for deep-truth telling? Seems, these days, if a cherished deep-truth isn't "on film" it maybe ain't, that we need the film of it to assure us of its communion.

Rather go fishing.

Christopher Knuffke

How about theme? Doesn't the movie's Moral Premise (Stan Williams) revolve around questions of relationships: the importance of marriage and children, "the too-busy spouse", regret and guilt?? And if a movie doesn't "tell the truth" - as per Robert McKee (Story) - what's the point???

Frank Ryan

I'm also a fan of Fr. Barron, but find it odd that while he was hard in his critique of Inception, he was a marshmallow in speaking of The Shack.

Gina

Saw the movie, and sorry, I agree with Fr. Barron. Your main error is that Cobb did not engage in a "deep exploration of the self", but his revisiting a carefully constructed escape from the world. His teammate didn't discover an untapped source of self-enlightenment, and Cobb had already known the truth about himself long before he returned to that world. The practice of turning the self inward to escape the world is a very common pagan practice.

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