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Thursday, April 02, 2009

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Father Thomas

And let's not forget that, as embodied in regimes like the Soviet Union and China, atheism itself has been the largest killer of human beings this planet has ever seen.

Pope 3, Dawkins -1.

Claire

Firstly it doesn't surprise me that the comments are moderated, of course they are as if someone like you would stand for open public questioning of your comments.

That aside quoting that ridiculous refutation of Richard Dawkins is completely amusing. Have you even read that book? The quote that 'He seems to have a knack for talking about matters he doesn't know much about while acting as though he really does' is ironically an exact reflection of Mr. Crean. If he understood anything about the fine biology that Mr.Dawkins is a master of he would never have bothered to write a refutation of it.

Dawkins 1 Catholic Church 0


Also you make it sound that Pope Benedict was quoting from a study when he made his comments which is ludicrous, he was completely and utterly speaking out of Catholic dogma. You and I both know that; while i will concede that the results of condom use in Africa is not what many of us may like it to be it is fortunate for the Pope. These results are just a coincidence in relation to his comments, he did not make the comments based on any researched findings.
And it you wish to argue that he did maybe he should start quoting his sources to boost his credibility a little as Mr Dawkins ALWAYS does.

Dawkins 2 Pope 1/2

Also in case you didn't realise Dawkins would never quote that the Pope could be responsible for the deaths of 'trillions' like you sarcastically insinuated. This because there aren't actually a trillion people on the earth and considering he is such an intelligent and calculating human being he would never make such a statement.

Dawkins 3 you 0

Finally that the Pope is better dressed, of course he is, in all his expensive gold jewellry and lavish robes. How insulting that he arrived in Africa, a nation so desperately poor in clothing so desperatly inappropriate.

Dawkins 4 Popr 1/2

And just quickly a side note directed to one of the comments made on this web page from another reader that we should "not forget that, as embodied in regimes like the Soviet Union and China, atheism itself has been the largest killer of human beings this planet has ever seen." Not only is the Catholic Church one of the biggest perpertrators of murder and injustice. (Have a read up about Hitlers religion and Galileo Galileis fate because he thought that the world was not the centre of the universe..turns out to be true apparently!) But where has atheism EVER been the largest killer of human beings on the planet? Please name me one murderer that has murdered because there is no God?! I can name plenty of murders committed in the name of God again i would advise a look over of the Spanish Inquisition!

Alphonsus

Claire,
I haven't read Fr. Crean's book, so I can't comment on it.

"You and I both know that; while i will concede that the results of condom use in Africa is not what many of us may like it to be it is fortunate for the Pope. These results are just a coincidence in relation to his comments, he did not make the comments based on any researched findings."

In the Catholic understanding of natural law, morality correlates with human flourishing. If Dawkins is so interested in research, why wasn't he aware of the problems with using condoms in AIDS prevention?

"Also in case you didn't realise Dawkins would never quote that the Pope could be responsible for the deaths of 'trillions' like you sarcastically insinuated. This because there aren't actually a trillion people on the earth and considering he is such an intelligent and calculating human being he would never make such a statement."

The "trillions" bit was a joke and placed in parentheses. Don't take it too seriously.

"Finally that the Pope is better dressed, of course he is, in all his expensive gold jewelry and lavish robes. How insulting that he arrived in Africa, a nation so desperately poor in clothing so desperately inappropriate."

The Africans didn't seem insulted.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7957690.stm


"Please name me one murderer that has murdered because there is no God?!"

Go read a good history of the French Revolution or the Russian Revolution. Plenty of people were killed because they believed in God when the ruling powers didn't.

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