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Wednesday, June 18, 2008

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joanne

Wasn't there a female theologian who was once in favor of women's ordination, then saw her error and began writing/teaching about the priesthood and about woman's true role in the Church? I remember having read about her but now that I want to refer to her work, I can't recall her name or whether she was in fact a nun, theologian, or professor.

Carl Olson

Her name is Sister Sara Butler and her book is The Catholic Priesthood and Women: A Guide to the Teaching of the Church. It's quite good, and I've mentioned it before on this blog.

Christine the Soccer Mom

I wonder why they insist on the name "womanpriests" and "womanbishop" when they are, at the same time, screaming that men and women are the same.

It's all very sad, though, that they have so little understanding of the difference between equal and same. We are equal in God's eyes, and yet we are not the same (men and women, I mean).

Ed Peters

"Any person who claims to have been ordained a Catholic bishop, priest or deacon without the proper authorization from church authorities not only is making a false representation of the facts but also by such an act leaves our church community."

Huh? That's not even a good sentence.

eric

Why is it necessarily the Holy Spirit that's leading her? She said it was her conscience, one's conscience can be led by any-'thing'.

james mary evans

Click here to meet the first American Roman Catholic Woman Bishop Dana Reynolds and her works:

http://www.sacredimagination.com/spirit_dolls.htm

But read this first...,

"For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles..."

Janny

[["Any person who claims to have been ordained a Catholic bishop, priest or deacon without the proper authorization from church authorities not only is making a false representation of the facts but also by such an act leaves our church community."
Huh? That's not even a good sentence.]]

Sure, it is. It's just a bit convoluted and needs a few commas. :-)

JB

LJ

"The Holy Spirit's call to be a priest is very strong and very persistent. It supercedes the Vatican's determination not to ordain women."

It is interesting that many men who have discerned the priesthood were not that certain about the call and had to move in that direction to find out. The point is that once they started, most often they would find some objective answer to the question. It would seem to me that if the Church excommunicates you for following the "call" to the priesthood that would be objective answer enough to realize the "call" was not coming from the Holy Spirit, or that you had mis-heard it.

This highlights very clearly the necessity of authority and objective creeds, rules and guidelines that go hand in hand with the inner working of God in our lives.

Has this not always been the ultimate refuge of the "sola's" of the Protestant movement to justify disunity, fracturing and splintering; that the Holy Spirit has led them to this or that doctrinal truth? In reality, to elevate our own subjective discretion and spiritual experience to the place of final arbitor is to throw back into God's face the great gift he has given us in the Church. It is to ignore Christ's specific will to unity. But then to blame the whole mess on the Holy Spirit is either sheer ignorance or stunning hubris.

Richard Pinion

Maybe Hans Kung should become a theologian for the RCWP.

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