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Wednesday, July 19, 2006


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I am struck by the tone of the arguments over the stem cell veto by President Bush. Others have said most of what needs to be said, but I do want to link to this post on the weblog of Ignatius Press, publisher of the books of Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope... [Read More]


Some Day

Bush is no Saint. But that veto doesn't do bad for him.
Maybe Hell will be a degree short than Luther.
(That was a joke.Maybe not funny. But an attempt.)


It has been clearly shown re: adult stem cell therapies, that this is more about ideology than science.
Science is the platform but the boundary they wish to cross is the creation of human life for the express purpose of killing it. For them, this will be extremely liberating, giving them the carte blanche for the kind of human experimentation that Mengele, et al could only fantasize about given the state of technology in the early 20th century.
Up until now, Roe v Wade sanctioned the killing of the human being within a specific context of a woman's so-called privacy rights. The Terry Schiavo case upped the ante, but still, in both scenarios, the lives being taken were already existing.
Embryonic stem cell research has the built in potential for the creation of life, "embryo farming" we might want to call it, for no other purpose than to be killed for science. It therefore is a step further down the slope of the death culture.
There have been many sci-fi movies made over the years about human beings "grown" for the purpose of spare parts, and usually ended in some sort of horror. But that kind of potential is contained in this legislation, intrinsically.

Ed Peters

Thus did Bush find Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), chairman of the Judiciary Committee, on the Senate floor yesterday comparing the president's position to those who opposed Columbus, locked up Galileo, and rejected anesthesia, electricity, vaccines and rail travel. Such attitudes "in retrospect look foolish, look absolutely ridiculous," said Specter, daring Bush to join them.

Note to Sen. Specter about "looking foolish": So, too, did the politicians who caved into Nazi demands for eugenics, etc.


I have such a hard time grasping the mindset of those who would say things such as "We aborted our baby to spare him the pain of being deformed, but we donated his stem cells so that other people might benefit" and they are not only proud of what they've done, but even acknowledge that this is a baby and use gender-specific pronouns. Have we really become this depraved that it's okay to sacrifice _other people's lives_ for some "greater good"? It's one thing to put your own life in jeopardy to save others, but someone else's?? Even one's own baby?

I can't even grasp it.

Ed Peters

Augustine wrote: "I have such a hard time grasping the mindset of those who would say things such as...."

That's because you're normal, Gus.

Cristina A. Montes

The stem-cell research controversy reminds me of Star WArs III where Sen. Palpatine tells Anakin about a Sith who found a way to alter midiclorians, create life, and stop people from dying. But to acquire that power, Anakin has to turn to the Dark Side.

Plato's Stepchild

"comparing the president's position to those who opposed Columbus, locked up Galileo, and rejected anesthesia, electricity, vaccines and rail travel"

Yes. There's nothing quite like going down in the history books as the Senator who kept the trains running on time.


I like that analogy, Cristina.

The Dark Side indeed.


None of these embryos would even exist if it weren't for advances in IVF, which is another attempt at asserting human will at all costs in my opinion.

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